Comments on: No Kids, No Debt, No Problem http://www.frugalfruitlands.net/2008/03/17/no-kids-no-debt-no-problem/ Living Less Large in Central MA Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:28:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: anca http://www.frugalfruitlands.net/2008/03/17/no-kids-no-debt-no-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-3449 anca Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:04:44 +0000 http://www.electric-monk.net/lise/2008/03/17/no-kids-no-debt-no-problem/#comment-3449 thank you for your welcoming, i love this blog! thank you for your welcoming, i love this blog!

]]> By: Lise http://www.frugalfruitlands.net/2008/03/17/no-kids-no-debt-no-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-3444 Lise Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:49:50 +0000 http://www.electric-monk.net/lise/2008/03/17/no-kids-no-debt-no-problem/#comment-3444 I absolutely agree, Anca! Welcome to the blog :) I absolutely agree, Anca! Welcome to the blog :)

]]> By: anca http://www.frugalfruitlands.net/2008/03/17/no-kids-no-debt-no-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-3441 anca Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:46:59 +0000 http://www.electric-monk.net/lise/2008/03/17/no-kids-no-debt-no-problem/#comment-3441 great post! i am childfree and the high cost of children is multi-faceted: their health costs, their food, clothes, shelter and more important, raising children stops me from raising my income and my career to where i want to. i am a feminist atheist and i also dread spending 18 years growing a boy that becomes a theist and think women are not people! and beside that, i survive from my career, not from having children- the job is an investment, children are a liability! great post!
i am childfree and the high cost of children is multi-faceted: their health costs, their food, clothes, shelter and more important, raising children stops me from raising my income and my career to where i want to.
i am a feminist atheist and i also dread spending 18 years growing a boy that becomes a theist and think women are not people!
and beside that, i survive from my career, not from having children- the job is an investment, children are a liability!

]]> By: Athena http://www.frugalfruitlands.net/2008/03/17/no-kids-no-debt-no-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-3188 Athena Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:15:13 +0000 http://www.electric-monk.net/lise/2008/03/17/no-kids-no-debt-no-problem/#comment-3188 Have been looking for your email as I didn't reply straight away - that'll teach me not to do it straight away! Hubby was more of a fence-sitter. Like I said he's an Egyptian Muslim and he thought when he got married he'd probably have kids as you did but I don't think he ever had a strong desire for them. Me I started off when I was somewhere between the ages of 14 and 16 I decided that marriage and kids were not for me after reading too many stories in magazines - some true some fiction - about women who were housewives and mothers and gave so much and gave UP so much only to have their husbands cheat on them and leave them. Changed my mind about the marriage but never on the kids though I wavered a little bit along the way. (Also I apparently never wanted to play with baby dolls as a kid or with little kids my mother later told me) Hubby & I talked about it and initially he said what about in five years' time? but now he's just as glad to be childfree as I am! We are lucky with our parents both our brothers married and had kids a boy and a girl but my colleagues can be a pain in the neck about when are we having kids why not etc. But those who know me like my friends do for e.g. respect my decision. Sorry I took so long to reply! Have been looking for your email as I didn’t reply straight away – that’ll teach me not to do it straight away!
Hubby was more of a fence-sitter. Like I said he’s an Egyptian Muslim and he thought when he got married he’d probably have kids as you did but I don’t think he ever had a strong desire for them. Me I started off when I was somewhere between the ages of 14 and 16 I decided that marriage and kids were not for me after reading too many stories in magazines – some true some fiction – about women who were housewives and mothers and gave so much and gave UP so much only to have their husbands cheat on them and leave them. Changed my mind about the marriage but never on the kids though I wavered a little bit along the way. (Also I apparently never wanted to play with baby dolls as a kid or with little kids my mother later told me) Hubby & I talked about it and initially he said what about in five years’ time? but now he’s just as glad to be childfree as I am! We are lucky with our parents both our brothers married and had kids a boy and a girl but my colleagues can be a pain in the neck about when are we having kids why not etc. But those who know me like my friends do for e.g. respect my decision. Sorry I took so long to reply!

]]> By: Lise http://www.frugalfruitlands.net/2008/03/17/no-kids-no-debt-no-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-2774 Lise Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:29:56 +0000 http://www.electric-monk.net/lise/2008/03/17/no-kids-no-debt-no-problem/#comment-2774 Hi Athena - great to have you reading! If you don't mind my asking, how did you and your husband come to the childfree decision? Hi Athena – great to have you reading! If you don’t mind my asking, how did you and your husband come to the childfree decision?

]]> By: Athena http://www.frugalfruitlands.net/2008/03/17/no-kids-no-debt-no-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-2744 Athena Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:34:40 +0000 http://www.electric-monk.net/lise/2008/03/17/no-kids-no-debt-no-problem/#comment-2744 I take issue with the race thing too - well ALL of the stoopid comments. I AM a white professional but I am married to an Egyptian Muslim so guess all those racists can breathe a sigh of relief that we are childfree! The ironic thing is how do they know that THEIR children will not marry someone non-white and have SHOCK HORROR half brown babies or convert to Islam? (Bet the babies for Jesus crowd would LOVE THAT one! Met a guy yesterday - boyfriend of a friend. His grandparents were religious and their son grew up to be an Atheist. The atheist married another atheist and had a son - this guy I met - who grew up to be a very spiritual Theist. I also know a girl raised Atheist who became Muslim and I was raised Christian now I am no longer. Your post is EXCELLENT well done! I take issue with the race thing too – well ALL of the stoopid comments.
I AM a white professional but I am married to an Egyptian Muslim so guess all those racists can breathe a sigh of relief that we are childfree!
The ironic thing is how do they know that THEIR children will not marry someone non-white and have SHOCK HORROR half brown babies or convert to Islam? (Bet the babies for Jesus crowd would LOVE THAT one!
Met a guy yesterday – boyfriend of a friend. His grandparents were religious and their son grew up to be an Atheist.
The atheist married another atheist and had a son – this guy I met – who grew up to be a very spiritual Theist. I also know a girl raised Atheist who became Muslim and I was raised Christian now I am no longer.
Your post is EXCELLENT well done!

]]> By: Frugal in the Fruitlands » Gender and finance: how much do you spend on hygiene? http://www.frugalfruitlands.net/2008/03/17/no-kids-no-debt-no-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-693 Frugal in the Fruitlands » Gender and finance: how much do you spend on hygiene? Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:50:20 +0000 http://www.electric-monk.net/lise/2008/03/17/no-kids-no-debt-no-problem/#comment-693 [...] and careers with a spouse, or becoming financially literate. (As we know, my husband and I are childfree, so I’d suggest avoiding children entirely, but I realize that’s not right for [...] [...] and careers with a spouse, or becoming financially literate. (As we know, my husband and I are childfree, so I’d suggest avoiding children entirely, but I realize that’s not right for [...]

]]> By: Lise http://www.frugalfruitlands.net/2008/03/17/no-kids-no-debt-no-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-599 Lise Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:05:50 +0000 http://www.electric-monk.net/lise/2008/03/17/no-kids-no-debt-no-problem/#comment-599 Frugal Pursuit: I'm excited to find someone else who falls into the same camp I do! As you can see, I have no problems with people who have kids, it's just these hateful attitudes that I encounter far too frequently. Most people are pretty reasonable about their children; it's just that sometimes it's lonely to be in the "no kids" side of the party. Frugal Pursuit: I’m excited to find someone else who falls into the same camp I do! As you can see, I have no problems with people who have kids, it’s just these hateful attitudes that I encounter far too frequently. Most people are pretty reasonable about their children; it’s just that sometimes it’s lonely to be in the “no kids” side of the party.

]]> By: Frugal Pursuit http://www.frugalfruitlands.net/2008/03/17/no-kids-no-debt-no-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-595 Frugal Pursuit Mon, 16 Jun 2008 03:12:20 +0000 http://www.electric-monk.net/lise/2008/03/17/no-kids-no-debt-no-problem/#comment-595 I was poking around on your blog and found this entry. Being on the side of zero population growth (well negative if I am not even replacing myself), I am glad to see people who are married and subjected more strenuously to the pressures of reproduction come down on the same side I am. Since I was in my early 20s, I knew being a mother was not for me. However, I do take issue with those who think that women who do not have children are not real women or should just have a hysterectomy because they aren't using their equipment anyway. I have encountered both opinions and been overcome by the shortsightedness of the women who spout this philosophy. Childless women, whether single or married, contribute greatly to society. If nothing else, I have no children of my own to distract me from spending time with my six nieces and nephews. I was poking around on your blog and found this entry. Being on the side of zero population growth (well negative if I am not even replacing myself), I am glad to see people who are married and subjected more strenuously to the pressures of reproduction come down on the same side I am.

Since I was in my early 20s, I knew being a mother was not for me. However, I do take issue with those who think that women who do not have children are not real women or should just have a hysterectomy because they aren’t using their equipment anyway. I have encountered both opinions and been overcome by the shortsightedness of the women who spout this philosophy. Childless women, whether single or married, contribute greatly to society. If nothing else, I have no children of my own to distract me from spending time with my six nieces and nephews.

]]> By: Frugal in the Fruitlands » Monthly Wrap-Up: March http://www.frugalfruitlands.net/2008/03/17/no-kids-no-debt-no-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-350 Frugal in the Fruitlands » Monthly Wrap-Up: March Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:03:00 +0000 http://www.electric-monk.net/lise/2008/03/17/no-kids-no-debt-no-problem/#comment-350 [...] No Kids, No Debt, No Problem [...] [...] No Kids, No Debt, No Problem [...]

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